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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 10:32:44 » |
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It looks much cheaper to go to St Malo on current prices ,although dover /calais would be the cheapest option
Either the entry would have to be very cheap/non existent or everyone would have to be very keen to go.
Portsmouth /Bilbao £1580
Fuel return 28hrs driving 1420 miles £ 450
Total £2030
Return Ferry Portsmouth/St Malo £850
Fuel return 38hrs driving 1900 miles £550
Total £1400
Dover /Calais £140
return drive 44hrs driving 2184 miles £700
Total £840
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2011, 22:37:32 » |
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Trevor please can you explain what is "NEAFP'd"?
What sort of licence do you need for the Spa event?
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 23:39:25 » |
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A national A is all you need for spa mary. And fia safety equipment!
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 01:31:54 » |
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How many hours' driving?! Using the Rosyth ferry, Spa was the closest (by road) track to me with the exception of Knockhill.
And the late, lamented Ingliston, obviously...
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2011, 09:03:17 » |
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Mary
It stands for National Event with Authorised Foreign Participation. It is how National race meetings / events can allow foreign entrants / racers to compete without being a full FIA International event.
As Paul says above, the licence requirements for the Spa race are Nat A licence and FIA 2000 spec overalls including balaclava and full underwear (shirt, longjohns and socks). I believe this is because the Belgian regs follow to the letter the International Sporting Code requirements, whereas the MSA regs only advise the use of underwear, gloves, boots and balaclava in national events
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2011, 09:23:15 » |
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You also need in date seat and harness.i'mnot sure what the rent boys did about the extinguisher.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 10:10:50 » |
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Yes.... It adds considerably to the cost of the event when you need to buy new seat, extinguisher and overalls AT THE EVENT! I didn't even know that seats HAD a date on them until we arrived at Spa...
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2011, 12:22:30 » |
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National A is easy to get - just send 6 race results with your name on to MSA. Download them from TSL timing if you have done 6 races in last few years and send them in.
Belts - mine were found to be out of date at Silverstone this year despite being only 5 years old and in very good condition. This was expensive to sort out on a Saturday afternoon.
FIA Fire Proof LongJohns - very useful at Spa in open top car or for simply standing around in the Garage/Igloo at night due to their good thermal properties..
FIA Gloves - I was told these are not mandatory in UK this year at Anglesey - they are at Spa
Seat - not sure what the regs exactly are for the seat at Spa. I bought a new MSA approved seat 5 years ago for my race car which was found to have cracked and broken one its mounting brackets when doing pre snet preparation last year. went back to the old seat...
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2011, 09:44:17 » |
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The correct way to get the required signatures for a National A upgrade is to get them on the upgrade card at the events. If you dont get the card signed there and then, you have to speak VERY nicely to both the organising club, and the MSA, as it has to be confirmed by the Clerk ofthe Course for the events you are claiming a signature for that your performance was satisfactory.
The reason people have to have full FIA 2000 spec underwear etc for Spa is because they run it to the Belgian regs which mirror FIA International Sporting Code. It is feasible that other countries do the same.
Golves and boots are not mandatory at all in UK motorsport, it is only advised that you wear them.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2011, 10:37:48 » |
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Golves and boots are not mandatory at all in UK motorsport, it is only advised that you wear them.
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2011, 11:17:24 » |
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What's a golve?
Where is it worn?
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2011, 12:26:56 » |
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Chris, you are correct! Mandatory from 1st January 2012
Paul, I couldn't possibly say! Look in the Blue Book! ;p
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2011, 19:03:27 » |
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Paul, it's descriptive of a Volkswagen giving birth. Cows calve, VWs golve.....
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 22:48:11 » |
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Just as an add-on (having read Nick's post again), I had a look back and found that our fastest lap from 2008 was 4.07-ish.
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