Interested to know from those who tested these at Cadwell earlier in the year, were they buffed or were they run fully treaded?
fully treaded
Cheers Paul, that will save a bit of cash then!
If these are road-going (which I think is the case) I'd like four. Can you advise price and who to contact please?
They won't be available from the club for 10 -12 weeks at the earliest frank.But should be about £100 for four.
Many thanks Paul, I'll definitely take a set when they're available...
Hi Paul
What size Toyo's are we using? 135/? x 15
I need to get two sets, one for me and one for Simon.
Thanks Lien ;D
£100 + vat for 4; Sean got some off a tyre company he met on the internet.
The club are currently sorting out a bulk order directly with Toyo, let me know how many you would like, and if you want any of them buffed.
It's a 3 month delivery, so they will be with us early January.
What's the cost of them buffed?
Phil,
One set, unbuffed, order confirmed, thanks,
Frank
The last lot we had buffed were £15 per tyre, but we are hoping to do a deal if we are having 120 done in a single batch.
Derek - are you seriously considering buying them via a more expensive route.
We could make club supply mandatory, we will get larger discounts based on our final order size, if we are to order 3 or 4 hundred tyres we need everyone using them.
Don't forget to allow for any spares that you may require, I would have thought that 6 would be a minimum requirement.
To avoid confusion I will assume 1 set = 4 tyres.
No, not at all. Sean needed some tyres for his road car and he bought some, that's all. Goes against all national stereotypes as well.
Hi Phil
1½ sets for me please (6 tyres) plus the ones from Lien all un-buffed, is that extra cost really needed!.
I know its early but, where will the tyre's be available from, just so I (we) can work out collection or delivery costs?
So that's 10 not buffed & 4 buffed please.
Can someone please give definitive advice as to whether these Toyo tyres need to be buffed or not? If they were tested at Cadwell un-buffed and were as good as the buffed Firestones, why bother with the expense?
If they don't, and I would prefer it if they didn't need itas it adds 50% to the cost of a set, can it be written into the regulations that buffing of the tyres is not allowed?
Cheers
Trevor
Phil, I would like to order 2 sets (8 tyres) please.
Let me know when you want some money up front.
Thanks,
Mary
Whats the deal with firestone tyres then? I have 6 brand new buffed firestone tyres. There no good for the road so does this mean we have wasted £200+?
For 2010 the Toyo 135 will be the control tyre, no other tyre will be permitted. These tyres are on order and will be available through the club in January, which will be in plenty of time for the first race.
"Whats the deal with firestone tyres then? I have 6 brand new buffed firestone tyres. There no good for the road so does this mean we have wasted £200+"
Why would the firestones not be any use on the road. They are brand new and will have at least 3.5mm of tread depth on them???!!!
Sell them as exactly that. Theres absolutely no reason why they cannot be used on the road. Apart from if they are 145's and you dont want them on your car for gearing reasons.
Its just annoying that we have new tyres that have been shaven down and now are worth nothing.
Geoff archer offered £50 for them which just shows there worthless. I dont have a road 2cv at the moment so really there scrap.
In total we have 12 firestones and cant use them. Not happy! >:(
Can i run the tyres if we are not doing the championship?
Depends what's in the regulations for 2010. If the Firestones are allowed as a transition year then yes. If the Toyos are mandated, then no.
Simples!
That'll be no then.There was plenty of discussion on here about the complete lack of tyres for the whole season,the high cost of the rubbish mexican firestones and the extortionate cost of the quicker michelins .We now have one tyre for all , they will be 1/4 the price of a michelin so if you sell your old firestones to geoff for £50 you will be able to buy 2 brand new toyo's or you could find someone with a beetle or camper and flog them to them.
I must have in excess of 20 145's of all makes and ages that are no longer any use for racing marc but £90+ each tyres favour those that can afford them.£23 tyres favour all and if you can't afford £100 for a set of tyres that should last a season you can't afford to race.
Quote from: Trevor Williams on September 10, 2009, 10:02:26
Can someone please give definitive advice as to whether these Toyo tyres need to be buffed or not? If they were tested at Cadwell un-buffed and were as good as the buffed Firestones, why bother with the expense?
If they don't, and I would prefer it if they didn't need itas it adds 50% to the cost of a set, can it be written into the regulations that buffing of the tyres is not allowed?
Cheers
Trevor
I have no doubt they will be better buffed trev ,as all road tyres would seem to be.The ones we tested were not buffed and stood up very well to the test at cadwell.
I cannot see how you could police tyre depth though, if you were to find some part worns they would be legal and possibly advantageous so buffing must be permitted.
Cheers Paul
Quote from: Paul Robertson on October 09, 2009, 18:05:08
if you were to find some part worns they would be legal and possibly advantageous
Ha Ha ha see mr Coghills post at top of page tyres running in nicely ;)
Sean
I will need a set of tyres then by the looks of things please
The Toyo 310 tyres are in the 2010 Blue Book as approved for Motorsport.
Interestingly, the Michelins are not (though this is probably a printing error!!)
were they actually in last year then trev?
Paul
The Toyo 310 tyre is new in for 2010.
The Michelin seems to have grown by 20mm in width in the 2010 book and is now 165 SR15 XZX!!
That is not the only typo in the book, I can see some arguments over the safety car procedure!!!!
;D
Our countryside correspondent reports that the Toyos are good in the snow.
Anything thats not part worn is the way forward. Very glad to have some brand new tyres on the front and the rears have only done 6 months!!
I bet sales of winter tyres or mud & snows have gone through the roof.!
Quote from: Derek Coghill on January 09, 2010, 18:06:53
Our countryside correspondent reports that the Toyos are good in the snow.
Yup.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4252142672_178ddca68d_m.jpg) have we had snow during the 24 hrs? sure we had hail one year?
As I assume this is still the thread for notifying of your need for tyres, I would like 6 (not buffed) please. Thanks!
Any news on when the tyres will be available?
We should have them delivered on Tuesday.
Cheers Philip,
The tyres are now in stock.
Until the first race at Cadwell they will be £27 each. After that they will increase to £30 each.
Please send payment by cheque (made out to Classic 2CV Racing Club) to
Philip Myatt
Daisy Bank
Blurton Road
Barlaston
Stoke on Trent
Staffs
ST12 9BA
They can be collected from Stoke or Wisbech, or delivered direct to your door at £4.50 per tyre with a minimum delivery charge of £9.00.
All tyres must be paid for in full before delivery or collection can be arranged.
Cheers
Philip
What's the cost for buffing them Philip?
When will you be getting the buffed ones done?
According to an email I received from Philip, the club will not be getting any of the tyres buffed
Demon Tweeks offer a tyre buffing/shaving service at £12 per tyre, not cheap but I have used them and it is reliable.
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=TYRBUF
Are we still allowed to use the last of the firestones this season? From what i understand it was going to be a possibility?
No the agm voted against it.
Hi Phil, my tyres arrived today, many thanks.
Mary
Hi
We have been told that Toyo might become short supply due to the problems in Japan.
Has anyone heard anything and I wonder if stockpiling might be an option.
As a competitor who has not yet competed, where do we buy these from?
Philip Myatt sells everything on behalf of the club
David, I think we have enough in stock to last the season. We ordered in October for this years requirement.
Let me know when you need some.
Would I be able to collect four tyres from Snetterton, were I to buy them?
I wonder what kind of tire pressures do you guys run them in the UK classic class?
You use a lot less steering input compared to us in the EU classic class based on what I see on onboard movies. Maybe higher tire pressures?
For our Toyo tyres, we generally run them between 34 and 40 psi. Previously we used Firestone tyres, and we ran them at around 26 psi.
I think some of our cars run a lot of negative camber, and the cars are quite low, which means we don't need much steering input.
Quote from: gasklep on November 12, 2017, 08:38:55
I wonder what kind of tire pressures do you guys run them in the UK classic class?
You use a lot less steering input compared to us in the EU classic class based on what I see on onboard movies. Maybe higher tire pressures?
King pin inclination/correction after lowering
Also, if an Ami 8 anti-roll bar has somhow found its way onto a 'Classic' Dyane, that will tend to increase a standard A-series Citroen's inbuilt tendency to understeer. ;)
Quote from: Sean on November 18, 2017, 08:45:29
Quote from: gasklep on November 12, 2017, 08:38:55
I wonder what kind of tire pressures do you guys run them in the UK classic class?
You use a lot less steering input compared to us in the EU classic class based on what I see on onboard movies. Maybe higher tire pressures?
King pin inclination/correction after lowering