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Classic 2CV Racing Club Ltd Forum => 24h-Race => Topic started by: Nick Roads on July 03, 2017, 22:54:58

Title: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Nick Roads on July 03, 2017, 22:54:58
As Philip resigned I have agreed to help liaise with the Belgiums and Mini's and for the teams going to Spa. This year its been agreed with the Board that the entries will be made via Classic 2CV Racing Club Ltd.

The price is going to be £ 2000 if currency rates the same as now as the pricing has been largely agreed in Euros. This price for club class, economy class, Minis that race at Snetterton and UK hybrids.

The format should be same as in previous years:
Limited free testing on Friday as part of that price. Extra hours can be bought on the day.
Teams need to arrive by Friday mid afternoon with scrutineering early evening.
Qualifying Saturday morning, race likely to start around 4 pm.
There will be top 3 trophies for every class but may only be one UK trophy to be awarded at the main ceremony to fastest car in all the classes.

The C1 has its own series in Belgium and has been racing with 2CVRT at their meetings. They will be at Spa like last year and along with the Dutch and UK racing series there are expected to be over 40 C1's. Therefore with the 2CV's and Hybrids could be a grid of over 100 cars. As it is going to be a large grid it would be helpful it anyone interested can post here their interest or PM me in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: nick nice toes on July 04, 2017, 22:44:05
Just wondering why if there are soo many more cars entered "provisionally" the entry cost for UK teams has increased by 33%
It was only 1600 last year.
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Nick Roads on July 05, 2017, 07:49:15
I was not involved in any pf the pricing negotiations with the Belgians this year. There has always been pressure towards UK entry prices as Belgian entry price (4400 euros) is twice what UK cars pay so not surprised it has gone up.

I am not clear why the C1's in the UK been promoting the race for over 3 months while no news from the 2CV Racing Club on entry prices and details. It was one of the reasons I decided to get back involved as there are only so many drivers and crew that will want to go and those going all need to plan early. The C1's entry pricing is £ 2500 and according to their forum this week (2 July) have 18 cars entered from UK.
' Spaces filling fast on this one, 18 UK C1 entries so far. Get your entry in as soon as possible, first come first served, grid looks like it will be over subscribed. That will mean a reserve list.'



Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: biggles on July 05, 2017, 08:06:18
Going to be a bit busy around pits and parking areas  Queues for fuel
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Roy Eastwood on July 05, 2017, 11:33:47
The C1s expect their part of the grid to be 40 cars, so best not leave it too late or the race will turn into a race for modern hatches.

Quote from: Nick Roads on July 05, 2017, 07:49:15
I was not involved in any pf the pricing negotiations with the Belgians this year. There has always been pressure towards UK entry prices as Belgian entry price (4400 euros) is twice what UK cars pay so not surprised it has gone up.

I am not clear why the C1's in the UK been promoting the race for over 3 months while no news from the 2CV Racing Club on entry prices and details. It was one of the reasons I decided to get back involved as there are only so many drivers and crew that will want to go and those going all need to plan early. The C1's entry pricing is £ 2500 and according to their forum this week (2 July) have 18 cars entered from UK.
' Spaces filling fast on this one, 18 UK C1 entries so far. Get your entry in as soon as possible, first come first served, grid looks like it will be over subscribed. That will mean a reserve list.'




Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Paul on July 05, 2017, 15:18:40
Count us in Nick. As the cheapest classes on the grid by 25% over the C1 and 50% cheaper than any Euro class we should take full advantage while we can.

Do you know if we need to supply trophies?
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: gadget on July 06, 2017, 07:42:26
Hi Nick,
You can count us in as well as a definite.
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Marty on July 06, 2017, 09:03:23
Hi,
Small details on the rates mentioned below :
- The Belgian/French entry price is not 4400€ (price if full season), but 4800€ (£4200)
- The UK C1 entry price is 2850€ (£2500)   therefore  -40%
- The UK 2CV entry price is 2280€ (£2000) therefore  -52.5%

After reading here the amazing number of C1's in a 2CV race (although they could very well organize their own race), I searched for information and found this :
http://speedactiontv.be/C1_Racing_Cup__cap_sur_lAlsace_avant_Spa_et_Mettet_-20036-1.aspx (http://speedactiontv.be/C1_Racing_Cup__cap_sur_lAlsace_avant_Spa_et_Mettet_-20036-1.aspx)
http://moteurs.blogs.sudinfo.be/archive/2017/03/21/francorchamps-les-premieres-c1-racing-cup-en-piste-au-trophe-219672.html (http://moteurs.blogs.sudinfo.be/archive/2017/03/21/francorchamps-les-premieres-c1-racing-cup-en-piste-au-trophe-219672.html)
Robert Van Gysegem, both 2CV and C1, explained quietly that "during the prestigious 24H2CV event, there should be some ... tens of C1 at the start, including about twenty of us! What would be a very nice way to close the year 1 of this new product"
In other words, in 2017, 2CV's will pay so that C1's can run !!  (Regardless of the fact that C1's will be dangerous for 2CV's ... remember October 2016 ...)





Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: wilbot on July 06, 2017, 10:50:45
My Hybrid is a definite entry
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: nick nice toes on July 06, 2017, 11:57:03
MiM Racing will be there to hopefully complete 24 hrs this year.
So count us in too.
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Nick Roads on July 06, 2017, 16:29:07
Hi Marty

I know there has been some discussion with you this year and hope to be briefed on it all shortly. There was and remains a clear desire to get the Classiques to come to UK races and not just Spa.

For those following this thread may be of interest to note there 3 classiques at Croix for the 12 Hour race there this year. They ended up in positions 7,8 and 9 and were over 100 laps of both UK hybrids ): and also ahead of 4 belgian cars and at least 1 of the Belgian C1's. Go la tortue!

Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Andrew Bull on July 07, 2017, 14:06:50
Vive la 2CV

In all it's forms.

Baise C1

Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: pat069 on August 14, 2017, 12:35:47
Hi everybody

I'm Patrick, driver in rally and circuit.


Quote from: Nick Roads on July 05, 2017, 07:49:15
I was not involved in any pf the pricing negotiations with the Belgians this year. There has always been pressure towards UK entry prices as Belgian entry price (4400 euros) is twice what UK cars pay so not surprised it has gone up.

Not 4400€ !!!   but 4800€   :o :o :o

And also for the 2cv Classic (origin)  :-[


(https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/11/53/27/96/prix_210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/11532796/3272)

Calendrier 2cvrt

http://www.24h2cv.be/2CVRT/Documents/Calendar/2CVRT_calendar2017.pdf


Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Mick Storey on August 14, 2017, 21:01:26
I must confess to not wishing to be left out and assuming Tick Tock survives Snetterton, Rosie Racing will be going to Spa also. It is an amazing event
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: nick nice toes on August 14, 2017, 22:52:03
Who is driving tick tock ?????
🤔😂
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Nick clarke on August 15, 2017, 15:03:44
At spa it could be the same line up that won last year :)
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Mick Storey on August 15, 2017, 20:39:00
Nice toes - we are truly doomed  ??? :o ::)
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Roy Eastwood on August 31, 2017, 12:17:26
2016 Spa 2cv 24h started at 12.30 Saturday, I can't find anything about this years start time, I wonder if it's been set yet?
Title: Re: Spa Entry Price and details 20-22 October
Post by: Marty on August 31, 2017, 15:05:35
Indeed, no information on the schedules of Saturday and Sunday. And no news about Friday's practice day or its extra fare.  ???