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Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on July 10, 2007, 12:13:20
Hi

Does anyone know of anymore information about spa?
Entree fee and rules etc.

Is anyone else planning on going?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on August 06, 2007, 11:43:35
Just come of the phone to Steve Sykes. He thinks we should know what is happening about Spa in the next few days.
They are having the same problem as mondello with someone moving next to the track then moaning.
There will be a race just waiting to hear if its a 24hr or 2x8hr races.
Whatever happens we can run in our own class


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Geoff Archer on August 08, 2007, 18:10:13
Quote from: "Marc Fenner"
Just come of the phone to Steve Sykes. He thinks we should know what is happening about Spa in the next few days.
They are having the same problem as mondello with someone moving next to the track then moaning.
There will be a race just waiting to hear if its a 24hr or 2x8hr races.
Whatever happens we can run in our own class

remember mark we cant get entries for our own races, 2 8 hr races?  bet your mates wish they did our race now lol :wink:


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on August 08, 2007, 23:09:00
The difference being that I presume Spa has a licence for 24 hr races whereas Mondello didn't?

I think there was a 24hr race there not that long ago - can't remember if it was saloons or sportscars - is that what alerted said chap to the fact that he'd bought a house near a racetrack?

Two 8hr races, not 3?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on August 09, 2007, 07:23:59
No Geoff we would be racing with the other cars but in our own class.

Steve was saying that spa have been given 6x24hr tickets. They are trying to sort out if they have any left or if we can use one. There was a race a few weeks ago and they used 2 of the tickets as they had practice on the thursday as well as the race.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Geoff Archer on August 09, 2007, 18:15:12
marc please re read my post and think


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on August 10, 2007, 13:58:24
Ok im very sorry! :cry:

They did do the 24hr here though with Mr Hollis


Title: Fin?
Post by: Roy Eastwood on September 04, 2007, 20:53:13
Here's the site of the race 'organiser'
http://www.amcxl.org/ - not much hint of anything there - a bit sad even...

And this is what the organiser of the 2cv club meeting at the event has to say:


La Vie à Deuche a.s.b.l. : COMMUNIQUE


Amis deuchistes,

Les 24H 2Cv de Francorchamps n’auront pas lieu le premier week end d’octobre.

Au lendemain de l’édition 2006, le santa fé motor club annonçait qu’il ne serait plus organisateur de la réputée épreuve ardennaise. Depuis, une équipe dont nous ne pouvons que saluer le dévouement a mis sur pied un championnat qui se déroule sur plusieurs pistes mais bien sur, leur vœux le plus cher était d’organiser le double tour d’horloge spadois.
Les dates du 10 et 11 novembre sont réservées, mais la dérogation permettant de rouler la nuit n’est pas accordée ; de ce fait il y aurait deux courses (le samedi et le dimanche) pour un total de 17 heures avec – peut etre, qui sait, une dérogation qui finirait par tomber, permettant en conséquence le déroulement normal d’une course de 24 heures.

En date du 30 Août et dans l’incertitude la plus totale, après moult réflexions et cogitations, La Vie à Deuche a.s.b.l. prend donc, avec une certaine tristesse il faut le reconnaître, la décision de ne pas impliquer ses membres ni les nombreux habituels participants dans l’organisation d’un meeting qui ne serait que l’ombre de ce qu’il fut. (Aucune assurance quant au déroulement d’une course de 24 heures , le tour du circuit casé à 09 heures le samedi, … ). Il n’y aura donc pas, comme par le passé, de MEETING organisé par La Vie à Deuche a.s.b.l. Aucun accueil ou présence du club sur le circuit spadois à ces dates

Voila, une page est tournée et nous profitons de l’occasion pour adresser, une fois encore, un grand merci à tous les amis qui nous ont fait confiance pendant dix sept ans en nous rejoignant sur le toit de la Belgique pour célébrer la deuche dans les brumes et les frimas de fin de saison.


Later.....
Well, looks like it's 'back on' then (see next page) - brilliant - the above is just the decision by the club that organises the 'road' 2cv camp at the venue - I think they just had to make a decision at some time as to whether to commit to organising that part of it.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on September 04, 2007, 21:57:19
Shame about the campsite/rally. They can't be doing it just to get out of giving me it free because they threw my tent out last year.....

They're only allowed a certain number of 24hr races there each year; it may be that they've used up their allowance, which would be a pity. Time to get it sorted out a bit better for next year.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on September 04, 2007, 22:05:11
A disaster for the belgian series and something we should all be aware of when thinking that another organising club may be a good way for us to go


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: helen deeley on September 05, 2007, 08:29:32
Any chance of that in English?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Geoff Archer on September 05, 2007, 11:54:20
It says roughly :
This year a new organisation makes the 2cv race competition, and they choose 10-11th november to race 24H. But they didn't get autorisation to race by night. Instead of that they were talking about have 2 races... but maybe it will change and there will be 24 hours race!! -->
"La Vie à Deuche" decided because of that, to do not organise the meeting...


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: helen deeley on September 05, 2007, 12:35:36
thanks for that. Bad news for them


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on September 05, 2007, 15:02:41
Steve Sykes has been in contact with louis who is running. There will deff be a race. Prob a 6hr and a 9hr. Still trying for the 24hr though. More to follow


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on September 05, 2007, 16:16:55
It is apparently back on as a 24hr now.


Title: spa latest news
Post by: philip myatt on September 06, 2007, 06:39:01
It was confirmed yesterday that Spa will this year be called 24h24, this is to celebrate it gaining approval to run through the night, and will run for 24hours 24mins. Entry fee 2500 euro approx.
English championship cars allowed, refuelling as Snett.
A concession is that it will comply with Zolder noise rules, that means 95db.
So, who's going????
It's commitment time guys, all the doubts are over its 100% happening.
Let me know if your going to join us.

Philip


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on September 06, 2007, 07:34:48
What rules are we running too? Are we going to run in the classic class or by our own rules?
Paul was on about changing carbs etc. I think if we are going over we should have our own class with nothing changed.
Some of us dont have the time or money to be rolling roading a new carb etc


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on September 06, 2007, 10:13:22
Marc what the hell  has it to to do with you what i do and what class i may be competing in.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Steve Panas on September 06, 2007, 10:30:26
Tad harsh!! :lol:


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on September 06, 2007, 12:08:12
Paul all i was doing was asking what most people were doing. Obviously its up to you what class you are going in. I just thought that we were going to try and run in the same class.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Frank Barnard on September 06, 2007, 13:02:40
Phil, do you know i there's an official deadline for entries yet? Also, I assume the licence requirements will be National A minimum? I'm planning to drive there, hopefully with Glenn Burtenshaw, Robin Webb and ANO, but it's yet to be firmed up...


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on September 06, 2007, 14:01:59
As the race is in November I'd guess at a deadline sometime in October. Just a guess, mind. I'm 95% sure I'm going, but less sure what I'll be doing when I'm there.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: pat collier on September 07, 2007, 08:34:02
I am up for it bit need a ride with someone...


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: philip myatt on September 07, 2007, 09:20:21
Derek - are you going as a spectator or competitor?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on September 07, 2007, 15:01:25
I don't know yet, but I'll almost certainly be there either way. No vie a deuche site means I don't know where there's camping to be had. I did speak to someone about driving but I can't remember who it was!


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on September 10, 2007, 15:46:45
I've just noticed in the regulations for the Belgian series that ONLY Citroen chassis may be used - no exemption for the Classic class. Can this be changed and will it be strictly applied?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Dick Roberts on September 10, 2007, 16:09:03
Hello

I have written to Paul & Thierry who organise the 2CV accomodation for supporters each year and will get back with details as soon as I have them.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on September 10, 2007, 23:02:35
Dick, is that the campsite that we used last year (the one that Roy said wasn't happening)?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Dick Roberts on September 11, 2007, 06:42:15
Hello

Yes - the atmospheric (smokey) campsite with Paul Foucant's marquee.

As it is later in the year the supply of hot coffee, hot wine and hot bonfires will be even more important.

I will let you know as soon as I hear what the arrangements are.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on September 11, 2007, 08:13:52
Hi Derek

Think i may have said something to you about spa as we had a spare seat. There is still a drive going but i know there are people interested in doing it. If your interested let me know. My email is marc2citroen@yahoo.co.uk. Only problem now is our car is running on a frome chassis. Fingers crossed we will be allowed in!


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Dick Roberts on September 11, 2007, 09:26:35
Hello

I have had this reply to my question about the 'normal' 2CV side of the Spa event from Thierry, one of the organisers.

......"Big changes this year, new race organisation, new date (10 and 11 th November) and for fun, new timing 24H24’.

About the meeting, we cannot at the moment confirm our club would be there to organize as we did in the past. In one week we should know at which conditions we could work there and give a positive or negative answer. So, be patient.

Friendly Thierry"


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on September 27, 2007, 11:26:17
We now have 3 drives available in our car as both Robin and Glenn are in america racing in the legends world finals. Glenn is 4th in his series so obviously that is taking over as he could win the series.
Frank B may have one of the drives. If your interested in a drive give me a ring on 07793009668


Title: Last Call for Spa
Post by: philip myatt on October 01, 2007, 15:59:25
The deadline for entries is the end of this week, a lot of people have talked about going, is anyone doing anymore than talk about it, if you want to race, Louis, Steve Sykes or myself need to know by 5/10.

Philip


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on October 01, 2007, 17:14:10
Yep we are doing! Saying that we need 2 more drivers!


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Frank Barnard on October 01, 2007, 17:46:33
Marc, just in case you're counting on me, I won't be going, as I warned Richard in an e.mail. Sorry about that


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Derek Coghill on October 07, 2007, 17:14:28
<I'm 95% sure I'm going>


As it turns out, I'm told I'm taking the 5% option, so I won't be there.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on October 08, 2007, 21:17:20
If your interested in a drive at Spa we have some drives going. Cost is £300 plus fuel and entry fee. If your interested give myself or Richard hollis a ring. My number is 07793009668


Title: Oh, what fun we had
Post by: David Bain on November 13, 2007, 21:34:09
Thanks for the entertainment to all those who competed at Spa. Those who weren't there could, perhaps, visualise it as this year's Snetterton without the summery bits. Only those who did it will be able to imagine what it must have been like driving their stints in horizontal sleet and bucketing rain. We camped through it at Eau Rouge between bouts of masochistic spectating and that was bad enough. As the saying goes, you don't have to be daft but it's a big help.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on November 15, 2007, 08:38:21
So how did the british teams get on??? Did any go???


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Geoff Archer on November 15, 2007, 09:06:11
Quote from: "Marc Fenner"
So how did the british teams get on??? Did any go???

marc thought your car was going?


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on November 15, 2007, 09:58:42
Car 63 Myatt,Panas and Smith went with last years race winning car,after qualifying they were 7th on the grid .At race start Captain Fast made up 4 places and was running a strong 3/4 place until 28 minutes when the gearlever selector in the top of the gearbox broke and he was stranded at the bus stop .We applied for a tow back (you have to state where the car is and on which side of the track)and the car was duly returned to the pits.Where the enthusiastic pit crew started to take the gearbox out,only to be stopped by a knowledgeable belgian who took the gear lever out showed us the broken part and then helped us find and fit a replacement.
  We then had a trouble free run until around 6.50 when the car came back in with a very sick gearbox.The pitcrew were helping to repair the 74 car that we were sharing the pit with at the time and carried on doing so as it was apparent that 63 was deader than a dead thing and would need major resusitation.Having helped get 74 going we pushed 63 into the back of the garage and while the pitcrew of Pervert, Uncle,Starsky, Mr Hollis(sir)and leibchen 1 and leibchen2(as they had were later affectionately named)got on with the pain in the buttocks task of removing engine and gearbox.This took 4 ,yes that's right 4 hours.
  The kind loan from Team Manitou of a spare gearbox meant that at 6.30 in the morning the car was ready for a driver, however one was not found until 7.47 when smith took the wheel and we started the long climb (35lapsor 2hours and 20 minutes) up from last place by the time myatt took over we were about 20 laps behind and as panas took over for the last session we had risen pheonix like from last place to next but last (what a relief)however our joy was to be short lived as steve came on theradio to say he only had 3rd and 5th gears (at this point we had just made another place) and the team decided to go for a finish rather than the ignomy of buying last years race winning car and not even managing to finish in it) so steve parked it on the circuit and waited for the last few minutes and we finished ,just.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on November 15, 2007, 13:06:17
Sounds like a interesting race then!! :?
Weather sounded like itvwas great to.

Our car was goin but unfortunatly we couldnt find 2 drivers in time to fill Robin and Glenns seat as they were racing in America.
Glenn won the World Legends Final and came second in the world championship. Well done Glenn!!!!


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Andy Craig-Smith on November 15, 2007, 16:16:30
7:45am...........I need my beauty sleep Paul.
I would just like to state what a great job all the crew did in difficult conditions.
Thanks to Paul,Tim,Sammy, Mr Hollis and his stutents Rich & Tom, Sykesey, Uncle keith & Starksey.

ps. If you thought it rained at Snetterton, think again!!!!


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Steve Panas on November 15, 2007, 16:41:21
On a more serious note, bear in mind that dispite the fun and enjoyment we get from our motorsport it still is dangerous.  Vincent Dejardin of car 49 at Spa was seriously hurt after an accident occurring in the night.  Despite the helmet and fireproofs he has very serious burns. Vincent was transferred to a specialist burns hospital at Neder where he was put into an artificial coma to help with pain relief. Further news on his condition is to be posted on the Belgian website www.2cvracingteams.be.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on November 15, 2007, 17:27:40
Very sad news to here someone was injured.

While on the site i found this video with Paul and tim working on the car

http://www.televesdre.eu/site/index.php?iddet=1203&id_surf=&idcat=115&quellePage=999&surf_lang=fr&id_menu=115


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on November 16, 2007, 09:28:23
I'd forgotten we had changed the pads on the grid.


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Marc Fenner on November 29, 2007, 08:41:13
Is there anymore news on how that guy is doing after the fire??


Title: Spa 24hr race
Post by: Paul Robertson on December 17, 2007, 17:07:35
He is out of the coma and out of intensive care soon,according to the begian website