Dear all,
Please see below the email response from Ian Watson. The entire email thread follows below that. There is a board meeting tonight and Mervyn has confirmed this issue will be discussed.
RE: 2CVParts.com Championship standings (after Cadwell Park)
Ian Watson
10:23
To: Matthew HollisCc:
board@2cvracing.org.uk, Mervyn Rundle
Matt
I can see that we have a bit of a can of worms here then!! To my simple mind we have done the right thing by following these simple principles:
1. Pete Sparrow appears in both results and hence scores the points he earned
2. Pete’s car 97 was then driven by Jon who earns his own points from race 2 and Pete’s from race 1
3. The 89 car is treated as above so Nick scores his points from race 1 plus Pete’s from race 2
As you say this is exactly as we have done with Mick Storey so we are being consistent in the way we have applied the points rules.
There is no rule to cover this situation and to write in something now will require the agreement of all competitors registered for the championship. If it gets to the point that people do not like the way in which we have interpreted the regulations then they have the right to take the matter to the championship stewards who can make a ruling on the matter and advise us how to apply the points for the championship.
I hope this helps.
Best regards
Ian
Ian Watson
General Manager
British Automobile Racing Club Limited
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From: Matthew Hollis [mailto:hollis_motorsport@hotmail.com]
Sent: 01 June 2015 23:08
To: Ian Watson
Cc:
board@2cvracing.org.uk Subject: RE: 2CVParts.com Championship standings (after Cadwell Park)
Hi Ian,
Funny you should reply with this, I'm not sure if you have been looking at our forum, but there is a mighty argument at the moment about the points scoring. You can access the thread here:
http://www.2cvracing.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2372.0 To summarise:
Pete Sparrow drove 2 cars (no. 97 - race 1 and no. 89 - race 2) at Cadwell Park and won both races - scoring 103 in race 1 (win and fastest lap) and 108 in race 2 (win and fastest lap and pole position).
Jon Davis shared no. 97 with Pete, thereby scoring 100 in race 1 (win under the shared driver rule 1.6.2) and 45 in race 2 (10th)
Nick Crispin shared no. 89 with Pete, thereby scoring 60 in race 1 (7th) and 100 in race 2 (win under the shared driver rule 1.6.2)
The argument is that Pete should have scored the points of one of his shared drivers, so either 103 in race 1 and 45 in race 2, or 60 in race 1 and 108 in race 2. It is unclear how it would be decided which set of points he should have had, but the assumption being made is that it should be the first car driven (no. 97) - therefore 103 in race 1 and 45 in race 2.
The issue surrounds the following rules:
1.6.1 Points will be awarded to Competitors listed as classified finishers in the Final Results as
follows:-
1st – 100, 2nd – 90, 3rd – 80, 4th – 75, 5th – 70, 6th – 65, 7th – 60, 8th – 55, 9th – 50, 10th – 45,
11th – 40, 12th – 35, 13th – 30, 14th – 25, 15th – 20, 16th – 15 and 10 points for all other finishers
In addition five points will be awarded to the driver setting the pole position time and three
further points awarded to the driver setting the fastest race lap.
1.6.2 Drivers who share a car at a meeting other than the 24 Hour meeting shall score the total of
their own points and the points of the driver with whom they share the car.
If a driver competes in 2 separate cars he will appear as a classified finisher in results for race 1 and race 2 - therefore 1.6.1 applies. However if those cars are shared with other drivers then rule 1.6.2 also applies. There is no allowance for one rule taking precedence over the other. If anything, both rules should apply, therefore Pete should have scored 103 (race 1) + 60 (race 1 shared points) + 108 (race 2) + 45 (race 2 shared points) = 163 points (race 1) and 153 points (race 2).
It is my opinion that if a driver finishes a race, he only scores the points for where he finished as per 1.6.1, regardless of whether or not he shared. This is a calculation I have used previously but it has not been questioned before. I do not claim to be correct - I believe it is the fairest solution.
As administrators of our championship, I feel I have to refer this to BARC for advice. I am certainly not in a position to make a ruling on this.
You will see that in my forum post I indicated I would contact you about this and will post your reply on the forum. I am also copying in the Classic 2CV Racing Club board for info, as they may need to become involved.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
Matthew
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From:
iwatson@barc.net To:
hollis_motorsport@hotmail.com CC:
mervyn@solicitorstitle.co.uk Subject: RE: 2CVParts.com Championship standings (after Cadwell Park)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:08:21 +0000
That looks spot on to me, thanks
Ian
Ian Watson
General Manager
British Automobile Racing Club Limited
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From: Matthew Hollis [mailto:hollis_motorsport@hotmail.com]
Sent: 28 May 2015 13:13
To: Ian Watson
Cc: Mervyn Rundle
Subject: 2CVParts.com Championship standings (after Cadwell Park)
Hi Ian,
Apologies for the delay. Please find attached the latest standings for the 2CVParts.com Championship.
Kind regards,
Matthew